The Globus INK: a mechanical navigation computer for Soviet spaceflight (2023) (righto.com)

193 points by dangle1 a year ago

28 comments:

by kens a year ago

Author here for your mechanical computer questions...

P.S. there are two more parts to the series, going into more details on the Globus, explaining the circuitry and the "algorithms": https://www.righto.com/2023/03/reverse-engineering-electroni... https://www.righto.com/2023/03/reverse-engineering-globus-in...

by haunter a year ago
by 4gotunameagain a year ago

It's actually the same one I think !

   > Fortunately, CuriousMarc was able to get the globe back into position while ensuring that the gears had the right timing. (Putting the globe back arbitrarily would mess up the latitude and longitude.)
by harywilke a year ago

Read a very interesting book on the space race from the soviet side. One of the things that stood out was the lack of solid state transistor technology meant that they were using tube transistors in their space craft. This was one of the reasons they had problems doing spacewalks. They couldn't expose the interior of their capsules to space or the electronics would go pop. The Wrong Stuff How the Soviet Space Program Crashed and Burned by John strausbaugh https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/john-strausbaugh/th...

by izacus a year ago

The title itself should tell you that the book is there to sensationalize and grind an axe, not to actually provide any historical accuracy.

And yep, the author didn't even bother to use primary sources: https://www.thespacereview.com/article/4851/1

It's like recommending a book about Apollo program written by Russians without reading any US documentation.

If there has to be a western author, James Harford's Korolev biography is a better put together look into Soviet space program and actually has some proper academic reviews.

by kens a year ago

I read "Beyond: The Astonishing Story of the First Human to Leave Our Planet and Journey into Space" and found it very interesting. It is a detailed history of the early Soviet space program and Yuri Gagarin's flight.

by MrBuddyCasino a year ago

Why would a vacuum tube „pop“ when exposed to vacuum?

by analog31 a year ago

Possibly nowhere for the heat to go. Some tubes need a certain amount of ventilation depending on the application. It wouldn't pop, but might fail.

by numpad0 a year ago

Some of Soviet spacecrafts were known to have been built around ~1atm pressure vessels as a brute force means to reduce unknown unknowns. I suspect it could be reverse reasoning from there.

by dmix a year ago

probably because the vacuum of space is way more extreme than inside the tube which would cause pressure on the seals

by teraflop a year ago

Vacuum tubes typically have an internal pressure of less than 0.001 atm, sometimes much less.

Any seal that can withstand a pressure difference of 0.001 atm to 1 atm from the outside can almost certainly withstand a difference of 0.001 atm to 0 atm from the inside.

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by bgnn a year ago

that's bullshit. vacuum tubes are used in spacecraft by NASA too. it's likely they are still used. they don't pop in vacuum. plus they're more radiation resistant thwn transistors.

by neuralRiot a year ago

I always found mechanical calculators fascinating, here’s an article with a video explanation about the MK1 navy fire control computer. https://hackaday.com/2014/10/28/retrotechtacular-fire-contro...

by 4gotunameagain a year ago

One was sold last year for the bargain price of 40 thousand euros !

https://meshok.net/en/item/275902733_%D0%93%D0%9B%D0%9E%D0%9...

by LetsGetTechnicl a year ago

Whether or not its technically inferior to American space technology at the time, you have to admire the ingenuity.

by somat a year ago

They are used in different flight regimes, so not really comparable, but nonetheless, I found it interesting to compare it to the US version of the strange ball navigation thing.

https://www.righto.com/2024/09/f4-attitude-indicator.html

by richrichie a year ago

Mechanical computers are still used onboard Russian warships. These are meant to function under EMP attacks.

by dennis_jeeves2 a year ago

Interesting, I never thought of that.

by thrownawaysz a year ago

Dumb question: How do you jam a device like this? Is it even possible? Example: you want them to land at an incorrect location or doing more orbits than planned

by Ugohcet a year ago

You don't. This is basically a clock display with extra knobs and dials. It doesn't have any sensors or inputs except 1sec pulse.

by philistine a year ago

Imagine going to space using gears moving a pin on a globe.

by varjag a year ago

Imagine going to space by lighting up rocket engines with giant matches:

https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/rockets/a19966/russia...

by rbanffy a year ago

Now we need one on the Apollo 8 ball.

by kens a year ago

As soon as someone loans us an FDAI...

by baybal2 a year ago

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by hshdhhshe7 a year ago

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by hintymad a year ago

Ha, the similar technology that Eridians used to launch Rocky's blip-A.

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