Intel, TSMC tentatively agree to form chipmaking joint venture (finance.yahoo.com)

80 points by pseudolus 10 months ago

24 comments:

by philistine 10 months ago

Massive news. One cannot shake the idea that Taiwan is playing all the cards it can to protect it from invasion. This is one; ingratiating itself within the core of American production.

by aurareturn 10 months ago

Why would this help Taiwan stave off China's advance? Arguably, this makes it more likely.

by robertlagrant 10 months ago

Yes that's my take as well. It might be TSMC trying to survive, and America trying to deprive themselves of a future war to defend TSMC or China's inevitable taking of TSMC.

I don't see how it helps Taiwan that much, but perhaps it makes it less attractive to China to take if TSMC can move.

by _t9ow 10 months ago

> perhaps it makes it less attractive to China

Taiwan's semiconductor industry is literally not even a factor that plays into China's wish to reunify. It won't make a lick of difference.

by philistine 10 months ago

It makes it more likely that the US responds in kind to an invasion.

by aurareturn 10 months ago

Why? US would have the ability to make advanced chips inside the US. Why would the US be more likely to respond?

by poisonborz 10 months ago

This reminds me of Adventure Time where Finn (US Government) tells a goose and a fox to "now kiss":

https://youtu.be/XHgyD6UesJo?feature=shared&t=94

by gotschi_ 10 months ago

Oh god no please, no

TSMC is a perfectly fine company. Let them do their thing intel!

by bgnn 10 months ago

TSMC has a lot if joint ventures like this. They are quite good at cross contaminating with their own fabs.

by xeonmc 10 months ago

Don’t you mean cross-pollination?

by bgnn 10 months ago

That's definitely a better term. Thanks!

by rayiner 10 months ago

Is there like a book or podcast on Intel’s downfall? As a 90s kid it seems unthinkable to me Intel would be dethroned so swiftly.

by morgango 10 months ago

Stratechery does an OUTSTANDING job covering Intel, TSMC, and chips.

https://stratechery.com/?s=intel

They were talking about this in 2013

https://stratechery.com/2013/the-intel-opportunity/

by bfrog 10 months ago

Its happened before to any company that focuses too hard on short term profits and gets too comfortable.

Motorola GE Boeing

The list goes on…

by Tempest1981 10 months ago

Chip War by Chris Miller is a great read, although not specifically Intel.

by maxnevermind 10 months ago

asianometry on YT

also stratechery had few articles over the years

by chneu 10 months ago

Asianometry rules. As someone who works in semiconductor research and manufacturing, his videos are crazy good.

by AbstractH24 10 months ago

As another 90s kid feels like there is some lesson here on how few things last forever

by Incipient 10 months ago

I think it's a good example of why monopolies and vendor lock-ins are bad. Essentially when there IS choice, people will go to the better option, and the market leader, if they don't keep pace, people will move if they can.

It's when there is a huge exit barrier that companies get away with all sorts of garbage.

by sexy_seedbox 10 months ago

Microsoft is doing just fine, for now... maybe Copilot will be the beginning of the end for them.

by ChrisArchitect 10 months ago
by pylotlight 10 months ago

Is there not a more strict rule on dupes on this site, I've seen this numerous times.

by ChrisArchitect 10 months ago

Mostly, but some repeat offenders just don't seem to care.

by curtisszmania 10 months ago

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