I think the solution here would be to write a hand-written letter.
Sure, someone can make AI write a letter with some kind of contraption holding a pen (I think StuffMadeHere did something adjacent to this). But it would likely be more obvious, plus it requires physical actions and a stamp. All things that low-effort AI spammers aren’t going to bother with.
Physical letters do not obviate scams, nor is the cost that prohibitive. I remember actual 419 scams on blue airmail all-in-one letters back in the 80s. And that was international post too.
I have an inbox, and I do not receive a lot of scam post. In fact, I don't think I received any since I lived at this address (~10 years ). We do get a few promotional leaflets every other week.
OTOH, I get hundred of spam emails every day.
The former is something which I can handle manually easily, the other is not.
If you are targetting a list of well-known authors I guess outsourcing the writing of a couple of hundred handwritten letters shouldn't be too hard. I'm sure they they can find a school class in Nigeria or Kenya who would gladly do it for a few dollars — or a struggling teacher willing to get creative with the homework assignments.
> If you’re a scammer who uses “AI” to try to defraud actual humans, please die in a fucking fire, thanks.
Refreshingly direct and unfiltered, despite Scalzi being a well-established writer.
If you are looking for a refreshingly fun light read to brighten up your day¹, try Scalzi's When the Moon Hits Your Eye (2025), in which the moon turns into actual cheese.
1: It includes the horrific death of a Musk/Bezos-like tech-bro with more money and tech than sense. Good fun!
generic emails sure, but harder to conjure up a convincing picture of a specific book club, where it is, who will be there.
If people are taking the time to generate this kind of AI invite, then it must be a very high value event. Possible, but I suspect there are more mundane reasons for avoiding the admin
There are plenty of examples of AI being successfully used to emulated the email / messaging style of a specific individual already known to the target, for spear fishing attacks, and fake video and audio of family members tricking people. I think you're substantially underestimating the peak ability of AI these days
I'm not saying AI is incapable of these attacks, I'm arguing a more likely explanation exists. If he wanted to accept, say, one book club a week, I don't believe he would have too much trouble figuring out a way to safely receive applications
a lot of people , including myself, are using AI as an excuse to push thru awkward changes
I'm not doubting AI spam is an issue, but to solicit one book club appointment a month, solutions exist. It wouldn't be hard to identify the most genuine invites. Even if the middle ground is increasingly hard to filter
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I think the solution here would be to write a hand-written letter.
Sure, someone can make AI write a letter with some kind of contraption holding a pen (I think StuffMadeHere did something adjacent to this). But it would likely be more obvious, plus it requires physical actions and a stamp. All things that low-effort AI spammers aren’t going to bother with.
Physical letters do not obviate scams, nor is the cost that prohibitive. I remember actual 419 scams on blue airmail all-in-one letters back in the 80s. And that was international post too.
They don't remove it but they do reduce it.
I have an inbox, and I do not receive a lot of scam post. In fact, I don't think I received any since I lived at this address (~10 years ). We do get a few promotional leaflets every other week.
OTOH, I get hundred of spam emails every day.
The former is something which I can handle manually easily, the other is not.
If you are targetting a list of well-known authors I guess outsourcing the writing of a couple of hundred handwritten letters shouldn't be too hard. I'm sure they they can find a school class in Nigeria or Kenya who would gladly do it for a few dollars — or a struggling teacher willing to get creative with the homework assignments.
> If you’re a scammer who uses “AI” to try to defraud actual humans, please die in a fucking fire, thanks.
Refreshingly direct and unfiltered, despite Scalzi being a well-established writer.
If you are looking for a refreshingly fun light read to brighten up your day¹, try Scalzi's When the Moon Hits Your Eye (2025), in which the moon turns into actual cheese.
1: It includes the horrific death of a Musk/Bezos-like tech-bro with more money and tech than sense. Good fun!
Sounds like an excuse to me. It’s easy enough to recognise ai spam. Unless he is saying ai can replicate human writing?
> Unless he is saying ai can replicate human writing?
It can definitely replicate a human-written email.
generic emails sure, but harder to conjure up a convincing picture of a specific book club, where it is, who will be there.
If people are taking the time to generate this kind of AI invite, then it must be a very high value event. Possible, but I suspect there are more mundane reasons for avoiding the admin
There are plenty of examples of AI being successfully used to emulated the email / messaging style of a specific individual already known to the target, for spear fishing attacks, and fake video and audio of family members tricking people. I think you're substantially underestimating the peak ability of AI these days
I'm not saying AI is incapable of these attacks, I'm arguing a more likely explanation exists. If he wanted to accept, say, one book club a week, I don't believe he would have too much trouble figuring out a way to safely receive applications
a lot of people , including myself, are using AI as an excuse to push thru awkward changes
easy enough at scale of how many easy-enoughs per hour?
I'm not doubting AI spam is an issue, but to solicit one book club appointment a month, solutions exist. It wouldn't be hard to identify the most genuine invites. Even if the middle ground is increasingly hard to filter
I know a scapegoat when I see it