> The tech industry often talks about “the cloud” as though it were something abstract and untouchable. But the cloud runs on data centers, those data centers have an address, and that address can be hit by a drone.
Nominating this as the best opening line I have read in a while.
This looks like asymmetric psyop warfare, aka a publicity stunt, but an effective one. It doesn't do much operational damage to their enemies, and they have far better targets if they want to do economic damage. Like oil tankers in the Strait of Hormuz or Saudi refineries. But it's novel, it spooks investors, and it pushes the west to start defending data centers like military targets.
Or can't withdraw money from their FAB bank accounts as it's dependent on AWS infra. This is pretty much entirely to do with AWS and not the retail website.
Isn’t this just Iran trying to hit anything “of value” and it really a strategic target? I doubt they are thinking things through vs just firing off semi randomly.
Buying an antidrone and even antimissile system like say Pantsir-S1, Skyranger 30 or similar is just few million dollars - peanuts compare to the cost of the datacenter to be protected. Once AMAZN starts doing it for themselves, they will possibly also start air-defense-as-a-service using spare capacity.
With all the money and assets and the whole value of business, the Big Tech has already started to move into energy, and i think the defense, starting with self-defense, will be among the nearest-future next domains they will move into.
I dunno about defense as a service since those are pretty short range systems you mentioned (how would someone go "buy" excess capacity), but datacenters already cluster around common resources (water, etc.) so group buying some equipment to put in a ring around the datacenter area seems like it would be what they do.
Yeah the use consumer grade rocket components made SpaceX become viable compared to bloated rocket companies. Short range anti missile systems are not large ordinance, they rely a lot on technology for tracking targeting, and they are not a "weapon" (as in they prevent damage not cause it except inadvertently) so it actually seems like something pretty feasible for a tech company. Build it with consumer grade hardware and you could deploy a ton of them.
the previous world order based on sovereign states is quickly coming to end. Emerging world order is based on force, and the large corps have more money than many states. The only thing they are missing is the rights of a sovereign entity. Well in a world order driven by force, the rights you have is the rights that you've obtained by force. I think we'll soon see, by analogy with corporate personhood, some version of corporate statehood.
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> The tech industry often talks about “the cloud” as though it were something abstract and untouchable. But the cloud runs on data centers, those data centers have an address, and that address can be hit by a drone.
Nominating this as the best opening line I have read in a while.
Information and logistics win wars, and you need lots of compute and storage in a modern war.
HN could post the IP address of commenters but they wont.
People used to add contact info in their .signature files (!): HTTP, IRC, (etc) and ICBM...
This looks like asymmetric psyop warfare, aka a publicity stunt, but an effective one. It doesn't do much operational damage to their enemies, and they have far better targets if they want to do economic damage. Like oil tankers in the Strait of Hormuz or Saudi refineries. But it's novel, it spooks investors, and it pushes the west to start defending data centers like military targets.
Striking public infrastructure is the oldest kind of war there is.
The article does raise an important question though - would an AWS data center be considered a civilian target or military?
A new kind of war where people won’t be able to get next day delivery on the 5m USB-C cable that they ordered.
Or can't withdraw money from their FAB bank accounts as it's dependent on AWS infra. This is pretty much entirely to do with AWS and not the retail website.
That is... not what AWS data centers are primarily used for in 2026.
You mean they’re not used to sell me cheap Chinese USB-C cables?
AWS is also running government, military, medical, university etc systems. Banking.
Yes, Amazon Retail being the sole significant customer of AWS, I guess?
Bro thinks amazon is the onky thing that uses AWS
Isn’t this just Iran trying to hit anything “of value” and it really a strategic target? I doubt they are thinking things through vs just firing off semi randomly.
When resources are finite and require precise guidance, why would they fire semi randomly when they can be strategic?
Buying an antidrone and even antimissile system like say Pantsir-S1, Skyranger 30 or similar is just few million dollars - peanuts compare to the cost of the datacenter to be protected. Once AMAZN starts doing it for themselves, they will possibly also start air-defense-as-a-service using spare capacity.
With all the money and assets and the whole value of business, the Big Tech has already started to move into energy, and i think the defense, starting with self-defense, will be among the nearest-future next domains they will move into.
I dunno about defense as a service since those are pretty short range systems you mentioned (how would someone go "buy" excess capacity), but datacenters already cluster around common resources (water, etc.) so group buying some equipment to put in a ring around the datacenter area seems like it would be what they do.
Yeah the use consumer grade rocket components made SpaceX become viable compared to bloated rocket companies. Short range anti missile systems are not large ordinance, they rely a lot on technology for tracking targeting, and they are not a "weapon" (as in they prevent damage not cause it except inadvertently) so it actually seems like something pretty feasible for a tech company. Build it with consumer grade hardware and you could deploy a ton of them.
If everyone has an antidrone/antimissile system, then everyone will finally be safe.
the previous world order based on sovereign states is quickly coming to end. Emerging world order is based on force, and the large corps have more money than many states. The only thing they are missing is the rights of a sovereign entity. Well in a world order driven by force, the rights you have is the rights that you've obtained by force. I think we'll soon see, by analogy with corporate personhood, some version of corporate statehood.
WTF are Amazon’s data centers doung in the UAE? Excuse my ignorance, but why there?
all cloud providers have middle east presence
refineries generate terabytes of sensor data per hour
the population and people there produce and consume a lot of data
Latency
I would image data sovereignty is also a big factor.
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