I decompiled the White House's new app (thereallo.dev)

265 points by amarcheschi 6 hours ago

93 comments:

by iancarroll 4 hours ago

A bit skeptical of how this article is written as it seems to be mostly written by AI. Out of curiosity, I downloaded the app and it doesn't request location permissions anywhere, despite the claims in the article.

I've noticed Claude Code is happy to decompile APKs for you but isn't very good at doing reachability analysis or figuring out complex control flows. It will treat completely dead code as important as a commonly invoked function.

by Groxx 3 hours ago

The permissions snippet they show also doesn't include location, and you can't request location at runtime at all without declaring it there.

I'd verify all this stuff for myself, but Play won't install it in my phone so I can't really get the APK. Maybe because I use Graphene...? but I don't know all the ways they can restrict it, maybe it's something else (though for a pixel 9a it's rather strange if it's hardware based).

--- EDIT ---

To be specific / add what I can check, this is what my Play Store "about -> permissions" is showing:

    Version 47.0.1 may request access to
    Other: 
      run at startup
      Google Play license check
      view network connections
      prevent phone from sleeping
      show notifications
      com.google.android.c2dm.permission.RECEIVE
      control vibration
      have full network access
which appears fairly normal, and does not include location, and I think Play includes runtime location requests there. Maybe there's a version-rollout happening, or device-type targeting?
by frizlab 4 hours ago

> it doesn't request location permissions anywhere, despite the claims in the article

The article does not claim the app requests the location. It claims it can do it with a single JS call.

by esprehn 3 hours ago

It can request with a JS call. It can't passively collect it without you approving first. The article is written like calling that JS function will turn on location tracking without consent.

by mattdeboard 3 hours ago

He explicitly says he can't determine it, but that the location tracking as configured will turn on once the user grants consent. All true statements.

How would you have written it differently

by logifail 2 hours ago

"If the user chooses to opt-in and grants location-tracking permission, the app is then, and only then, able to track the user's location?"

by ceejayoz 20 minutes ago

But that's not true; it could easily fallback to other forms of geolocation like using the current IP.

by dmitrygr 3 hours ago

> The article does not claim the app requests the location. It claims it can do it with a single JS call.

so can ... any other code anywhere on a mobile device? That is how API work...

by david_allison 3 hours ago

You need to state the permissions you *may* request/use in AndroidManifest.xml. This data can then be displayed to users pre-installation.

From the (limited) article, it doesn't seem they do this: https://thereallo.dev/blog/decompiling-the-white-house-app#p...

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EDIT: I'm mistaken. From the Play Store[0] it has access to

* approximate location (network-based)

* precise location (GPS and network-based)

[0] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gov.whitehouse...

This seems to disagree with:

> The location permissions aren't declared in the AndroidManifest but requested at runtime

*shrug*, someone should dig deeper. It looks like the article may not match reality.

by Groxx an hour ago

What version do you see? 47.0.1 doesn't have that for me: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47557033

by dijksterhuis 4 hours ago

what version are you on?

from the iphone app store: version 47.0.1 - minor bug fixes - 34 minutes ago

while the parent posted 18 minutes ago

they may have patched the location stuff as part of the “minor bug fixes”?

by filoleg 3 hours ago

I have the iOS version from yesterday, haven't updated the app yet.

No location permission request prompting encountered. In system settings, where each app requesting location data is listed, it isn't present either.

by liveoneggs 29 minutes ago

how do you know it didn't lie during the decompilation?

by SoftTalker 5 hours ago

Looks like what you might expect in a standard marketing app from a consultancy. They probably hired someone to develop it, that shop used their standard app architecure which includes location tracking code and the other stuff.

by charcircuit an hour ago

And r8 which does tree shaking to remove dead code is not smart enough to understand react native so it won't strip it out without extra work from the developer.

Cross referencing these different things in the article to other apps that exist was my first thought as these seem pretty generic and probably reused from somewhere else.

by periodjet an hour ago

> Is it what you'd expect from an official government app? Probably not either.

Since when is the government a slick and efficiently run outfit that produces secure and well-done software products? Does no one remember the original Obamacare launch?

It’s hard to imagine a smug article like this dissecting a product of some other administration. There’s something very weird and off about stuff like this.

by mmastrac an hour ago

You omitted these items immediately above that line:

Injects JavaScript into every website you open through its in-app browser to hide cookie consent dialogs, GDPR banners, login walls, signup walls, upsell prompts, and paywalls.

Has a full GPS tracking pipeline compiled in that polls every 4.5 minutes in the foreground and 9.5 minutes in the background, syncing lat/lng/accuracy/timestamp to OneSignal's servers.

Loads JavaScript from a random person's GitHub Pages site (lonelycpp.github.io) for YouTube embeds. If that account is compromised, arbitrary code runs in the app's WebView.

Loads third-party JavaScript from Elfsight (elfsightcdn.com/platform.js) for social media widgets, with no sandboxing.

Sends email addresses to Mailchimp, images are served from Uploadcare, and a Truth Social embed is hardcoded with static CDN URLs. None of this is government infrastructure.

Has no certificate pinning. Standard Android trust management.

Ships with dev artifacts in production. A localhost URL, a developer IP (10.4.4.109), the Expo dev client, and an exported Compose PreviewActivity.

Profiles users extensively through OneSignal - tags, SMS numbers, cross-device aliases, outcome tracking, notification interaction logging, in-app message click tracking, and full user state observation.

by periodjet 44 minutes ago

… and?

by mmastrac 40 minutes ago

> It’s hard to imagine a smug article like this dissecting a product of some other administration

Did the other administration put a "fake news" and "report to ICE" and grifting link to their own social network in their apps? I feel like you are perhaps papering over a whole lot of general shittiness of this app that didn't exist in less amateur previous administrations that at least tried to follow the norms.

by fortran77 34 minutes ago

They had a way in offical apps to report people for not masking or for standing too close to each other. In Massachusetts you could dial 211 and turn in your neighbor: https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2020/10/06/massachuse...

by ceejayoz 18 minutes ago

You can report anything.

The only case they cite of an actual intervention resulting seems... entirely legit?

> An adult entertainment club lost its liquor license after a dancer and others were seen not wearing masks, the state said.

People call 911 for goofy things, too.

by phist_mcgee 27 minutes ago

Isn't that state based?

Also I'd say the federal government's approach to ICE deportations is a little stronger than even the COVID measures.

by enigmaTest 3 minutes ago

yappy yappy article ngl. tbh i haven't tried the app also so can't say much

by somehnguy 5 hours ago

Interesting. The site is nearly unusable to me unfortunately. '19 MBP w/ Chrome - scrolling stutters really bad

by tredre3 3 hours ago

Scrolling is extremely poorly behaved on that page for me too, Firefox 149 Windows 10. Which is quite ironic coming from an article that mainly criticizes the web dev aspects of the app!

by Aerolfos 42 minutes ago

Scrolling on my firefox is smooth... with javascript blocked.

by imalerba 4 hours ago

Scrolling is so laggy it's annoying to follow on mobile (FF 151.0a1)

by KomoD 3 hours ago

Does it for me too, chrome on a thinkpad

by amarcheschi 3 hours ago

I agree, the website of the original article is kinda terrible

by catlikesshrimp 4 hours ago

Not what you meant, but works fine on

Firefox 148.0.2 (Build #2016148295), 15542f265e9eb232f80e52c0966300225d0b1cb7 GV: 148.0.2-20260309125808 AS: 148.0.1 OS: Android 14

by r4indeer 5 hours ago

The argument regarding no certificate pinning seems to miss that just because I might be on a network that MITM's TLS traffic doesn't mean my device trusts the random CA used by the proxy. I'd just get a TLS error, right?

by subscribed 2 hours ago

Not if someone can issue the certificate signed by the CA your phone trust.

Imagine being in a cafe nearby, say, embassy of the certain north African country known for pervasive and wide espionage actions, which decides to hijack traffic in this cafe.

Or imagine living in the country where almost all of the cabinet is literally (officially) being paid by the propaganda/lobbying body of such country.

Or living int he country where lawful surveillance can happen without the jury signoff, but at a while of any police officer.

Maybe its not common but frequent enough.

by layer8 2 hours ago

> Imagine being in a cafe nearby, say, embassy of the certain north African country known for pervasive and wide espionage actions, which decides to hijack traffic in this cafe.

How would they get your phone to trust their CA? Connecting to a Wi-Fi network doesn’t change which CAs a device trusts.

by Galanwe an hour ago

Because there is a quadrillion trusted CAs in every device you might use. A good chunk of these CAs have been compromised at one point or another, and rogue certificates are sold in the dark market. Also any goverment can coerce a domiciled CA to issue certs for their needs.

by hvb2 an hour ago

That is a wild claim. I can't imagine that being correct given how that's been abused in the past

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/08/iranian-man-middle-att...

by ceejayoz 15 minutes ago

It's a pretty huge list.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/126047

The chances of zero of these CAs having been compromised by state-level actors seems… slim.

Do you trust "Hongkong Post Root CA 3" not to fuck with things?

Your link's from 2011; the US government was still in the trusted list until 2018. https://www.idmanagement.gov/implement/announcements/04_appl...

by cookiengineer 33 minutes ago

> That is a wild claim

China telecom regularly has BGP announcements that conflict with level3's ASNs.

Just as a hint in case you want to dig more into the topic, RIR data is publicly available, so you can verify yourself who the offenders are.

Also check out the Geedge leaked source code, which also implements TLS overrides and inspection on a country scale. A lot of countries are customers of Geedge's tech stack, especially in the Middle East.

Just sayin' it's more common than you're willing to acknowledge.

by kevin_thibedeau an hour ago

Israel is not in Africa.

by thegagne 5 hours ago

Not if you are part of an org that uses MDM and pushes their own CA to devices.

by r4indeer 5 hours ago

Ok, fair point. However, I would consider any MDM-enabled device fully "compromised" in the sense that the org can see and modify everything I do on it.

by p2detar 4 hours ago

An MDM orga cannot install a trusted CA on non-supervised (company owned) devices. By default on BYOD these are untrusted and require manual trust. It also cannot see everything on your device - certainly not your email, notes or files, or app data.

by layer8 2 hours ago

If it is untrusted, you also won’t have a TLS connection be established based on that CA.

by nine_k 3 hours ago

> An official United States government app is injecting CSS and JavaScript into third-party websites to strip away their cookie consent dialogs, GDPR banners, login gates, and paywalls.

So at least it does something actually beneficial for the user! I wish it could go even further, the way Reader Mode in a browser would go.

by sitzkrieg 5 hours ago

i assumed it was malware out the gate. yep

by ranzhh 3 hours ago

Are those references to 45 and 47 "Easter Eggs" to Trump's presidency number(s)? As in, forty-five-press (45th president) and Version 47.x.x (47th president), as well as the text message hotline (45470).

by analog31 2 hours ago

>>> This is a government app loading code from a random person's GitHub Pages.

A random person with pronouns, no less. That means the code is “woke.”

by wincy an hour ago

Every default setup on every website and app for the last five or so years has been encouraging users to add pronouns, making it difficult to avoid it, even my iPhone asks me to add each person’s pronouns when I add a new contact. I don’t know why Siri needs to know that, but it’s there. There’s one website I use that won’t let you sign up as a contributor without “completing your profile”, which includes mandatory pronouns.

I guess there’s some workplaces where it’d be useful for me to update these, probably the ones Apple PMs work in.

by 4ndrewl 7 minutes ago

It's often useful for me so that I can know how to address you/refer to you, especially if it's a foreign (to me) name I'm unfamiliar with.

by vineyardmike 5 hours ago

> The official White House Android app has a cookie/paywall bypass injector, tracks your GPS every 4.5 minutes (9.5m when in background), and loads JavaScript from some guy's GitHub Pages (“lonelycpp” is acct, loads iframe viewer page).

Doesn’t seem too crazy for a generic react native app but of course coming from the official US government, it’s pretty wide open to supply chain attacks. Oh and no one should be continually giving the government their location. Pretty crazy that the official government is injecting JavaScript into web views to override the cookie banners and consent forms - it is often part of providing legal consent to the website TOS. But legal consent is not their strong suit I guess.

by trimethylpurine 5 hours ago

Aren't the banners for EU page visitors. I don't think there is a US law about this, is there?

by bsimpson 3 hours ago

Some states have them. California has a similar one "Don't Sell My Personal Information."

by trimethylpurine 2 hours ago

I think the Supremacy Clause protects federal agencies but not sure. Also Privileges and Immunities, and Commerce clauses...

by xocnad 4 hours ago

And when the app links off to an EU site? Nothing prevents an EU user from using this app. There are a variety of Trump enthusiasts, though I suspect less than there are here in the US.

by az09mugen 3 hours ago

Please don't give them ideas.

by trimethylpurine 2 hours ago

I think they just fine the entity doing business in the EU. If they don't do business there, I can't see any issues.

I'm not an attorney, but I don't find any cases that extend beyond that.

by wincy an hour ago

Quite honestly, it’d be hilarious to see the clown car response from the White House if some EU bureaucrats tried to enforce their GDPR rules on the White House though. “Lol Make us” is the nicest response I can guess at.

by subscribed 2 hours ago

They conduct a pervasive, hidden, persistent user tracking not only without consent, looking at the analysis, but also stripping the user from a chance of declining tracking on other sites.

I'm quite sure that's illegal.

by trimethylpurine 2 hours ago

Which federal law would be relevant here? I'm only aware of California and EU laws that might be. But, I'm fairly certain they don't apply to the US government because of several Constitutional and international laws superseding.

I'm not sure. If there is an attorney to answer that would be interesting.

by Arainach 5 hours ago

"An official United States government app is injecting CSS and JavaScript into third-party websites to strip away their cookie consent dialogs, GDPR banners, login gates, and paywalls."

In their defense, this is the first thing the Trump admin has done that's unambiguously positive for ordinary people.

by ronsor 5 hours ago

Yes, this is a major UX improvement considering I remove those with uBlock Origin anyway.

by subscribed 3 hours ago

Indeed.

I'd love it somehow taken out of it and made available for the general public. Custom uBlock / Adblock filers will be probably the easiest.

by shimman 2 hours ago

I too love it when US imperialism invades digital spaces, just ignore how the US treats people critical of its own government (not just referring to the Trump admin here) then yeah sure great.

Let me know when this can ignore malware/adware from US companies then I'll give accolades.

by oefrha 5 hours ago

> An official United States government app is injecting CSS and JavaScript into third-party websites to strip away their cookie consent dialogs, GDPR banners, login gates, and paywalls.

Giving people a taste of web with Ublock Origin annoyance filters applied, refreshing. Can’t believe orange man regime is doing one thing right.

by post-it 4 hours ago

> An official United States government app is injecting CSS and JavaScript into third-party websites to strip away their cookie consent dialogs, GDPR banners, login gates, and paywalls.

Rare Trump administration W. I'm assuming there's one particular website they open in the app that shows a cookie popup, and this was a dev's heavy-handed way of making that go away.

by replwoacause 5 hours ago

lol honestly all of this tracks given the current administration. i'm actually surprised it isn't worse. but yeah, amateur hour for sure.

by jfengel 5 hours ago

"Amateur hour" is basically their theme. They were swept in on a wave of distrust for people who know what they're talking about. They were elected to tear down Chesterton's fence, even (and especially) the parts holding in the face-eating leopards.

To mix the metaphors further, they (the politicians and their supporters) fancy themselves the kind to dream of things that never were and ask why not. Why not have a war in Iran? You won't know until you give it a try.

by trimethylpurine 5 hours ago

I don't see what the fuss is about. This all looks pretty standard. I use random people's stuff all the time. Isn't that the point of open source?

Did you find something malicious in the random GitHub repo? If so, you should write an article about that instead.

by kevinsync 4 hours ago

Using somebody's stuff is different than hot-linking directly to a hosted version of it, even just from the perspective that dude could delete it at any time and break the whole app.

by trimethylpurine an hour ago

That's fair. I download and embed, personally. Still, it's not a rant worthy mistake, honestly. Suggest a better approach, sure.

by xocnad 4 hours ago

All good for you to make those choices for yourself. Your response seems to be show ignorance of all the recent supply chain attacks that have occurred. You can imagine that given the situation with the shoe gifts that many high up members of the administration and cabinet members are running this app.

by trimethylpurine 42 minutes ago

I'm critical of the author.

I'm well aware of supply chain attacks. But this isn't a supply chain attack. If it were, the article would be way more interesting.

The supply chain attack articles are interesting exactly because this is so common. So what's special here other than it being loosely related to a disliked political figure? HN isn't supposed to be an especially political website.

"A common app is doing the same thing that basically every other app is doing."

Is that a good headline? No. And this isn't a good article.

by rendx 4 hours ago

I don't know if you're being serious or not, but in case you are: There is a difference between (re)using other people's open sourced code, hopefully reviewed, and giving anyone in control of the third party repository the ability to run arbitrary code on your user's devices. Even if the "random GitHub repo" doesn't contain any malicious code right now, it may well contain some tomorrow.

by torstenvl 2 hours ago

Completely agree. This is really unique. Can you imagine if it were standard practice to be open to supply chain attacks like that, by blindly relying on hotlinked or unpinned dependencies?

by input_sh 3 hours ago

It's always a better idea to make a local copy of it.

Imagine they're downloading a project directly from your GitHub account. Even if you're not doing anything malicious and have no intention of doing anything malicious even after you've been aware of this, now all of a sudden your GitHub account / email is a huge target for anyone that wants to do something malicious.

by rpdillon 3 hours ago

The dependencies weren't vendored, meaning their behavior can change at any time if a malicious actor gains control of that third-party repo.

This is bad for security.

by crimshawz 2 hours ago

you are a fucking genius

by ThaFresh 4 hours ago

nice work, so they can get your location and have ICE scoop you up if required

by andix 4 hours ago

I would've expected worse. :)

by jruz 3 hours ago

Is this a surprise to anyone?

by colesantiago 5 hours ago

This is a pretty standard decomplation of an Android app.

I am sure if you decompile other apps used by hundreds of thousands of people, you would find all sorts of tracking in there.

Thanks for helping the White House improve their app security for free though.

by yellow_lead 5 hours ago

Even in the apps I've worked on, you won't find us loading arbitrary JS from a random GitHub user's account.

by colesantiago 5 hours ago

> Even in the apps I've worked on, you won't find us loading arbitrary JS from a random GitHub user's account.

You'd be surprised how many apps inside have hacks and workarounds because deadlines.

by crtasm 5 hours ago

Let's see if anyone can give an example of such a high profile app doing something similar.

by flutas 4 hours ago

I've worked on a three letter sports orgs (one of NFL, NBA, NHL, etc) Android app.

I always joke that we could probably tell you what color and type your underwear is on any random day with how much data is siphoned off your phone.

As for loading random JS, yeah also seen that done that before. "Partner A wants to integrate their SDK in our webviews." -> "Partner A" SDK is just loading a JS chunk in that can do whatever they want in webviews, including load more files.

Don't get me started on the sports betting SDKs...

Though we do have a Security team constantly scanning SDKs and the endpoints for changes in situations like this.

by jasonlotito 4 hours ago

> As for loading random JS, yeah also seen that done that before.

Partner A is not random JS. The assumption there is 1) you have some official signed agreement with them and 2) you've done your due diligence to ensure you can use them in this way.

It's not just some person's GH repo who can freely change that file to whatever they want.

Hotlinking is as old as the internet, and a well-worn security threat.

by longislandguido 4 hours ago

The comments in here are pretty rich. If this was any other app, everyone would be screaming about "why are you being mean to the author", flagging posts left and right.

by rpdillon 3 hours ago

Nah, I suspect any app that's loading arbitrary JS from somebody's random GitHub page would get called out for that behavior. We're getting supply chain attacks daily.

by hvb2 an hour ago

This was probably payed for, with tax payer money, coming from an official government entity.

If any of those 3 is true, the bar should be higher than what someone just did in their free time? I would surely expect more.

by tclancy 3 hours ago

That is some impressive willful ignorance. “If it was anybody else threatening to beat this guy up for what he was saying, you’d probably praise them. But a cop does it one time and …”

by mattdeboard 3 hours ago

Are you upset people are being critical of a shabbily run government program?

by longislandguido 2 hours ago

> government program

Is there a cabinet member for the Department of Apps?

It's a throwaway app, probably written by someone that posts here.

by paulhebert an hour ago

Is this not a government program? Did someone in the cabinet choose to do this?

I’d prefer they not release shoddily build propaganda apps

by goosejuice an hour ago

https://45press.com/ would be my guess.

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