NYT and Vaping: How to Lie by Saying Only True Things (gwern.net)

31 points by Ariarule 4 hours ago

6 comments:

by paleotrope 15 minutes ago

Glad they wrote this, but then some people have been reading the "news" like this for decades.

by cwillu 25 minutes ago

The problem with gwern posts is that there are so rarely anything to nitpick, to spark conversation in the comments.

by slopinthebag 20 minutes ago

I vaped for a couple months but stopped when I started to have my heart race when I would stand up suddenly. Ears started to crackle as well. Not saying the article is wrong, but I think there are probably good reasons to chose alternatives...

by like_any_other an hour ago

I sure am glad such deception is limited to that one vaping article.

by zrezzed 14 minutes ago

I’m disappointed this is the first comment on this post.

gwern’s writing (including on nicotine) was formative for me; it showed me how and why the internet the was important: it let me read good, well written thinking I had never seen from the NYTs or my parents.

I first saw a link to gwern.net on HN. And I trusted the NYTs as an institution then, and do to this day… and I’m sure I clicked through, and took the gwern post seriously in part because comments weren’t universally negative.

You can point to bounded trust problems, or talk more about how “The Media Very Rarely Lies”…

But please don’t take up the first comment on a gwern post to cheap shot the NYTs

by YZF an hour ago

Some people might not realize there's a /s in there.

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