WATaBoy: JIT-Ing Game Boy Instructions to WASM Beats a Native Interpreter (humphri.es)

177 points by energeticbark 11 hours ago

23 comments:

by Scaevolus an hour ago

The absolutely easiest way to write a JIT is to use Javascript and eval() (or "new Function()", which is just eval in a Java-shaped tuxedo). You can quite easily speed up little matching functions, especially arithmetic heavy ones, by just filling in some templates at runtime!

Here's an example used in PuzzleScript: https://github.com/increpare/PuzzleScript/blob/dc1e0fc979365...

by hodgehog11 32 minutes ago

This is true, and is why I think Javascript is underrated for emulation.

For example, this PSX emulator: https://github.com/kootstra-rene/enge-js

It has decent compatibility and good speed. Furthermore, I challenge anyone to find a PSX emulator with fewer lines of code with competitive speed and accuracy. To my knowledge, this is by far the simplest such implementation, and is able to do this by taking advantage of Javascript JIT compilation.

by bawolff 6 hours ago

> Dolphin isn’t on iOS, because you can’t do JIT compilation on iOS....Well, Apple has one exception to its JIT restrictions: web browsers. JavaScriptCore, WebKit’s JS engine, uses JIT compilation for its higher-performance tiers. So, if a JS function is called enough times, eventually it’ll be optimised and compiled into native machine code. The same is true for WebAssembly.

I was wondering about the why of the headline, and this is a really interesting answer. Such a beautiful way to get around restrictions. I wonder how applicable it is to other projects.

by plaidthunder 3 hours ago

Restrictions aside, many years ago I landed a self-hosted Array.sort implementation in Firefox's JS Engine that performed better than the native C++ implementation :] -- it's a recurring theme.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=715181

by mikepurvis 7 hours ago

I've always really enjoyed Andrew Kelley's article about trying to statically recompile NES code from 2013 [1]. Basically he makes a ton of progress but gets hung up not just on the realities of the handwritten assembler of the era just not being all that great at mapping to higher level LLVM IR. In the conclusion he specifically calls out a JIT-type methodology as probably being the way to go, where you live-recompile the hot paths when you have the runtime data required to actually understand them, and don't worry about the parts you can't.

Very cool to see something like that in action.

[1]: https://andrewkelley.me/post/jamulator.html

by dag100 9 hours ago

This is an incredible project for an undergraduate. Very impressive. Interesting to note that Firefox is 25% slower than Chrome/Safari, I wonder why.

by ahartmetz 8 hours ago

Of course it beats a native interpreter. WASM overhead is about 20%, interpreter overhead is about 1000%.

What's cool here is to have a GameBoy JIT runtime at all.

by grashalm 8 hours ago

It's two jits in total.

by ahartmetz 5 hours ago

True, but the WASM JIT is pretty low overhead because WASM seems to be a good design for what it needs to do. It's what I was referring to with the 20% overhead figure.

by jcmfernandes 2 hours ago

Very cool! I did something similar using Dolphin and LLVM, 16 years ago during my masters, for a course on virtual machines. I compiled the interpreter to LLVM bitcode and then used it that to build basic blocks. It was super slow, but it worked, and I had lots of fun working on it.

by milch 10 hours ago

Very interesting article. Would've been fun to see the comparison between native interpreter & JIT-on-WASM on iOS as well

by jhatemyjob 5 hours ago

The author's base assumption, and stated motivation for doing this project, is wrong.

https://github.com/StephenDev0/StikDebug

For an undergrad project, I suppose it's fine to conveniently forget about the existence of this solution for the sake of getting a good grade.

by saagarjha 4 hours ago

I would not expect the average undergraduate to understand the intricacies of how iOS does dynamic codesigning enforcement. There are plenty of people who have graduated with advanced degrees and work at Apple who don't really understand how it works, either.

by jrmg 4 hours ago

It’s wrong ‘for sideloaded apps that have the get-task-allow entitlement.’

It’s right for ‘regular’ apps.

by jonny_eh 8 hours ago

So it's a JIT-in-JIT? JiJIT?

by lightedman 7 hours ago

Still doesn't beat a natively-coded emulator. I got several that run faster on a 166MHz non-MMX Pentium than this emulator does on my Core Ultra i9.

by iberator 9 hours ago

yet on real old hardware it would be 20x slower in real life. same as all native javascript junk - its fast, but non usuable on older hardware

by qweqwe14 8 hours ago

Here's a nickel kid. Go buy yourself a real computer.

by rixed 7 hours ago

How much RAM would a nickel buy me?

by wifipunk 4 hours ago

based on the tracked average of $12.65/gb from rampricesusa you could get about 4mb of ddr5

by switchbak 9 hours ago

Good thing I'm not running games on my 4gb Pentium 4 then.

by jonhohle 6 hours ago

Your code running on other people’s hardware is a privilege. Treat it with respect.

by saagarjha 4 hours ago

You can also like not run the Gameboy emulator

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