Agreed. A documented data export or stable feed would complement the minimal UI well: it would let a quiet service stay intentionally simple without making a user's archive feel trapped.
Hi, thanks! There is a lot of nuance on the rendered pages, I figured server-side React was the best choice - plus it's a technology I'm comfortable with and might also encourage contributions.
Hi, I'm sorry you don't like the limitation :( this is for short thoughts you want to share, not really huge conversations, there are better places for that IMO.
The character limit is, in my opinion, the primary reason Twitter became so bad. It encourages absolute language (qualifiers take up characters!) It discourages any level of nuance.
I use Mastodon which has a 500 limit, and even that sometimes is not enough.
lol Yes enshittification is the thing I want to avoid, so hard decisions need to be made that will not make everybody happy. Still, this is open-source[0], so we can open a discussion (ideally alongside a PR) and evolve it.
I built something for a similar goal, make it easy for someone to start their blog. But instead it's a static website, clone the repo, adjust the config.ts, write the posts in markdown, host anywhere: https://starter.bryanhogan.com/
I recently started a section on my personal site for absolutely minimal and simple microblogging that I could Ctrl-F through: https://knlb.dev/scribbles/ -- I should probably give this a shot.
It picks up your system theme, so you can't be dark mode hater since you're already using it for your OS :P i didn't want to complicate it with user settings yet, but it can be added if there is demand.
The 280 char limit seems arbitrary, given you cant even keep the about page within that limit: https://textlog.cc/about
If you are going to limit it to short posts, maybe the length of a short post is the length to limit it to, rather than emulating the 2xSMS of every twitter clone?
Other than that, it looks really clean and neat - I just dont think being 280 chars adds anything other than resulting in people posting with pagination as per X 1/3.
I like the idea of a shorter character limit as it nudges users to a specific mode of interaction: short thoughts/updates and not long-winded soliloquies. It's signalling that interaction with this platform doesn't demand much of your time or attention. I don't know what the about page has to do with it, but you have to draw the line somewhere.
That said, I'm not a social media user besides HN I guess.
Honestly, I don't really care that much. The project looks like fun, and I wish you the best with it, but I don't really post on microblogging platforms myself.
I just wanted to give a bit of feedback as someone who reads them - and point out that on almost every twitter/bluesky submission to HN they are using ways to work around the 280/300 char limitations.
To play devils advocate - 500 also seems a bit arbitrary ;) If I were making a platform like this myself, I would go for a power of 2 that makes sense for storage/buffering. Maybe 1KiB including all meta, etc. You could comfortably fit a post the size of your about page, and all associated meta in that - even when serialised as JSON or something. I'd go from there and work backwards to come up with a size that has a real technical purpose.
"Some popular social networks such as X (formerly Twitter), Threads, Tumblr, Mastodon, and Bluesky can be viewed as collections of microblogs." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microblogging
i'm experiencing a weird scenario. all time is asking me for a magic link :( I click on that link and again the same screen, ask for a magic link (said the old one expired). It may be our mimecast blocking something?
Interesting! My biggest reaction is I don't use Emacs. Is Emacs a requirement? You're right that Org adds features but it also shrinks the pool of people who will try this.
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I like this project. Simple, open-source, nice UI.
Agreed. A documented data export or stable feed would complement the minimal UI well: it would let a quiet service stay intentionally simple without making a user's archive feel trapped.
Impressed they already had a download! https://textlog.cc/account/edit
-btw you can write comments yourself Natalia! In fact that’ll keep ya compliant, we’re human-to-human here
Already there[0], and also an API[1] to build things on top! And it's all open-source[2], so if we miss something we can add it.
[0]: https://textlog.cc/account/edit
[1]: https://textlog.cc/api
[2]: https://github.com/stagas/textlog
Claude ui
it's gpt 5.6 sol actually, credit where credit's due
Thank you!
Yes! I've always said twitter was better before images/multimedia!
https://web.archive.org/web/20070123220857/http://twitter.co...
For those that never had an opportunity to see it.
Old web vibes!
I really like this approach. I wonder if it needs such complexity for the rendering. Could you have built this as a SSG template?
Hi, thanks! There is a lot of nuance on the rendered pages, I figured server-side React was the best choice - plus it's a technology I'm comfortable with and might also encourage contributions.
Would you be okay if I directed Claude to leverage your design and build a very simple Hugo template against it for my own personal use?
Why not, try it :)
Reminds me of org-social (https://github.com/tanrax/org-social)
> Notes are limited to 280 characters. The constraint keeps them quick to write and read, making room for one thought at a time.
No thanks.
Hi, I'm sorry you don't like the limitation :( this is for short thoughts you want to share, not really huge conversations, there are better places for that IMO.
The character limit is, in my opinion, the primary reason Twitter became so bad. It encourages absolute language (qualifiers take up characters!) It discourages any level of nuance.
I use Mastodon which has a 500 limit, and even that sometimes is not enough.
well, you may consider rewarding known quality users with an extended limit, say double. the others can pay ;)
That's how enshittification begins. Next thing you know and there are blue badges next to profiles.
lol Yes enshittification is the thing I want to avoid, so hard decisions need to be made that will not make everybody happy. Still, this is open-source[0], so we can open a discussion (ideally alongside a PR) and evolve it.
[0]: https://github.com/stagas/textlog
haha, yeah good idea. Also customize the theme as others wanted. So many opportunities here. :P
I built something for a similar goal, make it easy for someone to start their blog. But instead it's a static website, clone the repo, adjust the config.ts, write the posts in markdown, host anywhere: https://starter.bryanhogan.com/
Please don't use !important at scale https://github.com/BryanHogan/astro-starter-template/commit/...
reminds me of https://bearblog.dev/
https://prose.sh for an ssh app to manage a blog
I recently started a section on my personal site for absolutely minimal and simple microblogging that I could Ctrl-F through: https://knlb.dev/scribbles/ -- I should probably give this a shot.
Hey, nice! If you want to try it, we have an API[0] you can pull your user feed from!
[0]: https://textlog.cc/api
I'm a certified dark mode hater, so in that light, that's a no-go for me: there seems to be no way to change the theme.
It picks up your system theme, so you can't be dark mode hater since you're already using it for your OS :P i didn't want to complicate it with user settings yet, but it can be added if there is demand.
Maybe OP customized the system “dark theme” to be extra light.
Doesn't your user agent support user stylesheets?
The 280 char limit seems arbitrary, given you cant even keep the about page within that limit: https://textlog.cc/about
If you are going to limit it to short posts, maybe the length of a short post is the length to limit it to, rather than emulating the 2xSMS of every twitter clone?
Other than that, it looks really clean and neat - I just dont think being 280 chars adds anything other than resulting in people posting with pagination as per X 1/3.
I like the idea of a shorter character limit as it nudges users to a specific mode of interaction: short thoughts/updates and not long-winded soliloquies. It's signalling that interaction with this platform doesn't demand much of your time or attention. I don't know what the about page has to do with it, but you have to draw the line somewhere.
That said, I'm not a social media user besides HN I guess.
For perspective: you just commented 404 chars. Your first paragraph alone was 346.
My comment on the about page was that it needed more than 280 chars to communicate what the app is about - even the title + intro exceeds the limit.
If it is truly believed that 280 chars is enough to communicate an idea, then the about page should follow that philosophy.
I'm considering raising to 500. Care enough to open an issue[0] so that maybe there is a discussion we can track?
[0]: https://github.com/stagas/textlog/issues
Make it a setting and let people decide for themselves.
Honestly, I don't really care that much. The project looks like fun, and I wish you the best with it, but I don't really post on microblogging platforms myself.
I just wanted to give a bit of feedback as someone who reads them - and point out that on almost every twitter/bluesky submission to HN they are using ways to work around the 280/300 char limitations.
To play devils advocate - 500 also seems a bit arbitrary ;) If I were making a platform like this myself, I would go for a power of 2 that makes sense for storage/buffering. Maybe 1KiB including all meta, etc. You could comfortably fit a post the size of your about page, and all associated meta in that - even when serialised as JSON or something. I'd go from there and work backwards to come up with a size that has a real technical purpose.
It needs to be short - there is already a limit that worked well - why bikeshed it more?
A limit that worked well for who?
Almost every twitter/x post submitted to HN has people labelling their posts as "X of Y" threads, using images as text, or using pro account posts.
You can see it yourself: https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=twitter.com Ive just looked at 30 and each of them exceed 280 chars by far.
It works well for microbloggers.
But clearly not the microbloggers on twitter/x, Bluesky, etc, who use the patterns I mentioned.
Those are definitionally not microbloggers. It's ok for a platform explicitly for microblogging to not cater to their macroblogging desires.
Definitionally not?
"Microblogs, for example on Twitter..." https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/microblo...
"Some popular social networks such as X (formerly Twitter), Threads, Tumblr, Mastodon, and Bluesky can be viewed as collections of microblogs." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microblogging
I think this is the opposite of bikeshedding, it's literally a core feature and constraint.
You could fork and do whatever no?
Sure, but I don't care that much. It is a Show HN, so I was giving feedback.
i'm experiencing a weird scenario. all time is asking me for a magic link :( I click on that link and again the same screen, ask for a magic link (said the old one expired). It may be our mimecast blocking something?
Uhm maybe your client visits the magic link eagerly and when you visit it manually it's already been used?
i worked with my gmail but not corporate. mimecast does something wrong
See also https://github.com/buckket/twtxt
https://indieweb.org/twtxt
I would like to invite you to read this article: https://en.andros.dev/blog/ba142044/twtxt-vs-org-social-the-... What do you think?
Interesting! My biggest reaction is I don't use Emacs. Is Emacs a requirement? You're right that Org adds features but it also shrinks the pool of people who will try this.
I think twtxt is really cool. I have one on my site but I don't use it, unfortunately
Thanks for the write-up
twitter reborn
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