The Life and Death of Direct File [pdf] (ischool.berkeley.edu)

59 points by ronbenton 2 hours ago

19 comments:

by anigbrowl 28 minutes ago

I was surprised how much I enjoyed reading this. Although it's necessarily opinionate d(the lead author was part of the Direct file team) it comes off as very even-handed, giving equal consideration to successes and failures, and addressing the partisan political environment in factual terms.

It's unusually well-written, providing lots of key details or dropping in relevant context without ever losing sight of the big picture and the looming deadlines. I expected to just read the executive summary and then skim the rest, but it held my attention the whole way through.

by LastTrain an hour ago

There isn’t much to study - it didn’t succeed or fail on the merits - someone didn’t like it because he didn’t create it so it got axed.

by ronbenton an hour ago

I disagree wholeheartedly that there isn’t much to study. Direct File was actually a resounding success, especially when you consider how much difficulty governments tend to have shipping good software products. There is a lot of good information in here that government entities can learn from.

by mixdup an hour ago

Including how and why it died. That is an important lesson for the entire governmental enterprise, including all decision-makers, to learn: that government CAN deliver something good and one single person should not be in totalitarian control

by IncreasePosts 21 minutes ago

I think it speaks to doing things "the right way". Direct file could have been mandated by Congress, but it wasn't. Instead it only directed the IRS to do a "study" as a "voluntary agency initiative". That left full control of whether it should be done in the hands of the IRS and the executive branch.

by throw0101d 6 minutes ago

> Direct file could have been mandated by Congress, but it wasn't.

Something being mandated by Congress is no protection at times:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Agency_for_Inter...

(Or the Constitution for that matter it seems.)

by firesteelrain 35 minutes ago

It had talented software engineers involved including with the marketplace. It succumbed to political forces

by pudgywalsh 24 minutes ago

Care to share substantive evidence of your outrageous claim, or is it more karma-grabbing Reddit seethe?

You forgot to mention they subsequently made it open source.

I assume you didn't read that far if you read it at all:

https://github.com/IRS-Public/direct-file

by Defenestresque an hour ago

A fascinating , yet sad, post-mortem.

Anyone wheeling and dealing along in the shadows between "politics" and "deliverable, functioning product" should read it. Or, I guess, paste the link into Claude or ChatGPT and ask it to summarize for them, lessons learned in bullet points and how it could apply to $their_job.

But I'm generally a weirdo who finds these kinds of reports fascinating, so don't purely go on my recommendation.

by gradus_ad an hour ago

Eh, government should not be in the business of maintaining digital infrastructure, regardless of how capable it might be. As much of it as possible should be contracted out to 3rd parties.

by wbillingsley 9 minutes ago

Profit motives in infrastructure are a bad idea. See Thames Water in the UK, for instance. It always introduces a perverse incentive where if the company in control of the infrastructure can extract an extra million in profit by making everything less efficient and costing everyone else involved a billion, it's still in that company's interest to do so.

This is a prime example of that. H&R Block, etc, benefit from there not being direct file by around $3bn in revenue or around $750m in profit. Rough sums on the time saved by direct file if everyone used it is 8h * average wage * taxpayers, which seems to be approximately $44bn. i.e. in axing direct file, it has "created" $3bn in economic activity to the private infrastructure-owner (the intermediary between you and filing your return), but at the cost of $44bn in lost time & therefore lost activity (the other things you could have been doing) to the rest of the economy.

Infrastructure is not the economy. Infrastructure is the thing the economy runs on top of / has to use. Given that it is the role of government to govern the economy, it is the role of government to ensure that the infrastructure is running well (be the custodian of the infrastructure).

by compiler-guy an hour ago

Explain your reasoning at least.

The government has to maintain some infrastructure to get this sort of thing done. Whether digital or analog. And if it contracts it out, it needs to oversee it. So no matter how it is done, the government has to pay.

by doginasuit 14 minutes ago

Arguing the other side, digital infrastructure shouldn't be such a complicated domain that it is out of the reach of governments. This is the authority we trust to build our roads and virtually every other meaningful infrastructure in our civic life. Why should digital infrastructure be out of bounds?

The only alternative is inserting a third party, one that has full access to all your financial information. That shouldn't be necessary for the average filer, assuming a bare minimum of competence, like once might assume for the only country to put a human on the moon and bring them safely home.

by NoDodgeQuestion 39 minutes ago

Don't you care about the actual outcome at all? Even if the government does a better job, you still prefer a third-party organization?

by shepardrtc 41 minutes ago

At exorbitant costs or lackluster execution, with plenty of campaign donations along the way

by timcobb 39 minutes ago

> As much of it as possible should be contracted out to 3rd parties.

This is the case pretty much.

by zephen 24 minutes ago

Do you think the government should allow electronic filing of taxes?

Because if the government is going to accept returns electronically instead of through the physical mail, then it should accept them without requiring an intermediary.

Interestingly, it does this for corporations, but not for individuals.

Gee, I wonder why.

Personally, I think that (a) the government needs to have my PII to process my taxes, and that (b) having the government require me to also hand my PII to a third party in order to pay taxes is a big fucking security nightmare.

by denkmoon 43 minutes ago

You could just light the money on fire instead and get the same result. Contractors routinely screw the tax payer. I once had a job in one of these third parties where the entire operation was effectively defrauding the tax payer by claiming 1hr jobs would take 40.

by croes 25 minutes ago

Direct File was a service not infrastructure

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