Thanks for the link.
I clicked it and was greeted with this. LOL!
"It seems the shiny new AI tech tool Strategic Management of Airspace Routing Trajectories (SMART) may have become Failed Airspace Routing Trajectories (FART)"
I can easily imagine a batch job on a mainframe that sends every hour some important data by mail and that some logic apps checks that mailbox to propagate the data but now that mails have been delayed +12hours it's going haywire
And that sort of architecture is normally not a problem (finance has all sorts of stuff like that)... but national ATC systems are not the kind of situation were some SRE can just side load the file while keeping their job.
And in 2023, which was more similar to this. This is a departure stop, planes in the air are still heading towards their destinations. This is not the same as 9/11 where flights were redirected to their nearest airports for immediate landings.
2. The idea that someone would ground all air traffic in order to disrupt Anthropic’s IPO is an absolutely wild conspiracy theory with no basis in reality
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Pilot forum discussion - https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/674910-us-wide-ground-st...
Thanks for the link. I clicked it and was greeted with this. LOL!
"It seems the shiny new AI tech tool Strategic Management of Airspace Routing Trajectories (SMART) may have become Failed Airspace Routing Trajectories (FART)"
"Frequency outage", I think that translates to radio communications not working, until "22 Zulu" aka 22:00 UTC, 5 PM ET.
How does one prevent transmission on a frequency in an area the size of the continental US?
It's radio. Either you jam it or it works. That's the selling point.
It's not the transmitting per-se. The network that gives controllers access to the en route radio system isn't letting them connect to the radios.
Microsoft outage related??
I can easily imagine a batch job on a mainframe that sends every hour some important data by mail and that some logic apps checks that mailbox to propagate the data but now that mails have been delayed +12hours it's going haywire
And that sort of architecture is normally not a problem (finance has all sorts of stuff like that)... but national ATC systems are not the kind of situation were some SRE can just side load the file while keeping their job.
good question
https://xnotme.com/flightradar24/status/2121347654714077605
What are all the possible reasons to do this?
Has this ever happened?
A credible threat from Iran? More likely a technical issue.
Happened in 2023 https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/faa-notam-statement
Jan 2023 was the most recent nationwide one.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/11/faa-orders-airlines-to-pause...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_FAA_system_outage
previous time it happened right before chinese baloon made the news
it may be something similar - remove all random, but controllable sources of radar return for military to start scanning
It happened on 9/11, didn’t it?
yes, 9/11
And in 2023, which was more similar to this. This is a departure stop, planes in the air are still heading towards their destinations. This is not the same as 9/11 where flights were redirected to their nearest airports for immediate landings.
"If builders built houses the way programmers built programs, the first woodpecker to come along would destroy civilization" -- Gerald Weinberg.
Looks like the woodpecker has arrived.
I disagree vehemently that programmers build lousy programs. Many of us do quite the contrary.
But this is hilarious, and hence I am upvoting.
We’re in the “wooden dwellings” era of software.
Some cathederals are built, over time, by craftsmen who do work that spans decades.
However, very few of us are doing that. Most people are just throwing up a shack to live in.
Some more discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50489641
I guess some of their floppy drives must have given out.
> I guess some of their floppy drives must have given out.
More likely: the reengineered system has a serious bug.
Looks lifted now. https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_otherdis?adv_date=11132026&a... https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_otherdis?adv_date=11132026&a...
If you refresh a few times it'll show the advisories.
This has been a horrible week for AI: Jensen resigned, Microsoft Outage, now FAA outage from new AI system.
The reason is clear: all this points to the ANT ipo next week, people want to pop the AI bubble.
1. There’s no proof yet that this is AI related
2. The idea that someone would ground all air traffic in order to disrupt Anthropic’s IPO is an absolutely wild conspiracy theory with no basis in reality
What a cope. Per occam's razor, the most likely cause is putting hallucinations on the critical path. But sure, peddle a conspiracy theory.