Elephants found to be increasingly isolated leading to fractured social networks (today.ucsd.edu)

69 points by gmays 2 hours ago

13 comments:

by dieselgate 32 minutes ago

Read it a few times to understand the core message because the thesis and title are slightly self-evident i.e. more isolation causes less socializing. But the crux seems to be:

> "We see individual elephants leaving and possibly dying at accelerating rates, but new individuals are not coming into the population,” said Madsen. “With fewer individuals in the population, those who are left will naturally have fewer relationships. However, the remaining elephants are also changing their relationships with each other."

In my opinion "dying at accelerating rates" is the/a key takeaway. Notably climate change doesn't seem to be explicitly mentioned and hate to see poaching be a direct cause:

> Many elephant populations are already impacted through deaths resulting from poaching and conflicts with humans. Other contributing factors may be disruptions in habitat connectivity and less food available...

Other comments mention other intelligent and social species and this reminds me of Puget Sound Southern resident killer whales [0] and their decrease in food availability and offspring viability.

[0]: https://www.nature.org/en-us/about-us/where-we-work/united-s...

by slopinthebag 2 hours ago

imagine we find out later that shifts in our socialisation isn't due to smartphones but some unknown factor that also affects intelligent animals...

by blobbers an hour ago

Or imagine we find out later that shifts in our radio waves are also affecting intelligent animals!

(like bees?)

by yieldcrv an hour ago

hmmm check the mycelium

by LoganDark 15 minutes ago

Can confirm that the mycelium grants infinite wisdom. (to those who are worthy)

by mso3i 43 minutes ago

Well there are more microbes around us than there are stars in the universe. They survive without smart phones, intelligence, religion, society and stories that need to fit in a 3 inch chimp brain about the meaning of it all. One of them recently killed 6 million people. Life goes on.

by stouset an hour ago

The elephants are spending too much time confiding in Claude?

by lelandfe 37 minutes ago

Even bigger tusks, Claude

by nan60 40 minutes ago

Thought this was a joke about Mastodon at first ;D

by K0balt 44 minutes ago

YC 26. Facebook, but for elephants. (Maybe pivot to doordash for lions?)

by Avicebron 42 minutes ago

It's like when you starve them of resources they don't thrive. It does not compute, the line is going up.

by _joel 30 minutes ago

They still can't handle the svn to git migration as they lost TRUNK

by xmcp123 39 minutes ago

Glad to see things like this are being funded. It’s easy to forget we aren’t the only smart, social creatures on the planet dealing with this rapidly changing world.

Hat tip to the elephants for not being sociopaths like the Orca. Or otters.

Maybe the elephants and octopus should form a brilliant animals but not sociopaths club.

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