Really cool, like others are saying this makes you feel like you are interacting with all the pages at once instead of one page at a time.
I did notice that forward doesn't seem to work. I.E. If I click into a page, it zooms in, press back it zooms back out, press forward it flickers the url but doesn't have normal forward behavior.
I also don't know if you want to support `open in new tab` but that would be a hard req for many people.
I really love this (and miss the days when Prezi was simple and straightforward).
I've written an app myself along sort-of similar lines, but it's less a presentation app and more a thought organizer (works on all Apple platforms). https://mindscopeapp.com
I think what proved key for my own "zoomable" UI was cross-linking, search, and speed/snappiness. Make the animations too heavy and it just slows you down. Zumly seems really great in this regard. Well done!
This is indeed seriously impressive. I keep wanting to keep my entire knowledgebase on a canvas so that I can "think" or navigate spatially. Thisis neat.
In the main landing page, as I was clicking around, I kept wishing to have a legend to show me either "how deep I am" or "how do I get out of here?", and like someone else commented, I would love an affordance showing me what was clickable/zoomable.
Interesting way to use zooming as a way to transition deeper into sub-dashboards. The navigation from "Mission Control" -> "Satellite" -> "Subsystem" feels oddly intuitive and fun.
I would maybe opt for keeping a consistent navbar/sidebar, to support out-of-zoom navigation. And if we are dealing with a lot of power-users some breadcrumb to quickly go back to any zoom-level. But overall, i think this could totally work.
Love it. But there is a significant usability issue: Lack of signifier (aka affordance). How do I known when something is zoomable? Because there is no signifier, I am frequently disappointed when I click on something and it turns out it is not zoomable.
This looks seriously impressive. Also, I wonder what the a11y implications are. I don't miss Macromedia Flash hell at all. This is HTML5, so with a bit of effort it could look beautiful and still cater to the visually impaired.
Edit: I can't scroll any of the showcases. Probably deliberate, but a cut-off UI can be annoying.
Edit2: I opened the yellow car on the production line and going back the page got all offscreen and looks messed up
I'd say this is more of an interesting take on page transitions. I was expecting mouse wheel scroll to zoom, so I instinctively scrolled expecting some kind of zooming effect.
I remembered there was a website featured here on HN that had an interactive tour of the scale of the universe ranging from the very microscopic world (if I remember correctly I think it even went down to Planck length) all the way to the macroscopic (black holes, galaxies). I'd be interested in such a zooming library that achieves something like that.
I think zooming is effective when it's used in isolation for discrete things. It does add a sense of delight, but there is a functional usefulness of this that I'm trying to wrap my head around.. perhaps a transition effect for an immersive demo, etc.. nice work.
I have great respect for people pursuing their special interests with such perseverance - you clearly care about zooming UIs.
And so do I (just to a lesser extent)! It’s a great way to express hierarchy.
One thing I encountered is that it becomes all buggy after using the slide-back navigation gesture in iOS Safari. Yet this being natively handles would be a really cool thing to me, like those iOS “close back to thumbnail” gestures you sometimes see when scrolling up/down that I haven’t really seen replicated anywhere else.
Feels sluggish, but maybe this could be fixed by reducing the transition time.
But why? People usually don't notice such transition effects and it doesn't affect user experience in any meaningful positive way. It feels absolutely unnecessary.
Maybe you could re-use it as a mod for some game engine. This feels appropriate for video games; not for web-sites.
I have the exactly opposite view, possibly with the same amount of conviction. It feels very necessary to communicate hierarchy and where things are coming from and going. It communicates a lot of important information and continuity. In real life, you don’t have things suddenly appearing and disappearing all the time. That’s not how our brains are conditioned.
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Really cool, like others are saying this makes you feel like you are interacting with all the pages at once instead of one page at a time.
I did notice that forward doesn't seem to work. I.E. If I click into a page, it zooms in, press back it zooms back out, press forward it flickers the url but doesn't have normal forward behavior.
I also don't know if you want to support `open in new tab` but that would be a hard req for many people.
I really love this (and miss the days when Prezi was simple and straightforward).
I've written an app myself along sort-of similar lines, but it's less a presentation app and more a thought organizer (works on all Apple platforms). https://mindscopeapp.com
I think what proved key for my own "zoomable" UI was cross-linking, search, and speed/snappiness. Make the animations too heavy and it just slows you down. Zumly seems really great in this regard. Well done!
Thanks! Speed was a big focus, glad it comes through. Your app looks really cool btw.
This is indeed seriously impressive. I keep wanting to keep my entire knowledgebase on a canvas so that I can "think" or navigate spatially. Thisis neat.
In the main landing page, as I was clicking around, I kept wishing to have a legend to show me either "how deep I am" or "how do I get out of here?", and like someone else commented, I would love an affordance showing me what was clickable/zoomable.
I think about this space a lot, see Eagle Mode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6yPQKt3mBA
Interesting way to use zooming as a way to transition deeper into sub-dashboards. The navigation from "Mission Control" -> "Satellite" -> "Subsystem" feels oddly intuitive and fun. I would maybe opt for keeping a consistent navbar/sidebar, to support out-of-zoom navigation. And if we are dealing with a lot of power-users some breadcrumb to quickly go back to any zoom-level. But overall, i think this could totally work.
Appreciate it! Breadcrumbs and back navigation are definitely on my radar.
Love it. But there is a significant usability issue: Lack of signifier (aka affordance). How do I known when something is zoomable? Because there is no signifier, I am frequently disappointed when I click on something and it turns out it is not zoomable.
Fair point. No visual cue for what's zoomable is a real gap. Thinking about how to handle that without cluttering the UI.
that would be more on the consumer of the library than on the library imo.
Like I wouldn't expect any other frontend router library to decorate links for me in a certain way.
This looks seriously impressive. Also, I wonder what the a11y implications are. I don't miss Macromedia Flash hell at all. This is HTML5, so with a bit of effort it could look beautiful and still cater to the visually impaired.
Edit: I can't scroll any of the showcases. Probably deliberate, but a cut-off UI can be annoying.
Edit2: I opened the yellow car on the production line and going back the page got all offscreen and looks messed up
Thanks! The a11y angle is something I want to tackle properly. Noted the bugs too, the car one is a known issue.
I'd say this is more of an interesting take on page transitions. I was expecting mouse wheel scroll to zoom, so I instinctively scrolled expecting some kind of zooming effect.
I remembered there was a website featured here on HN that had an interactive tour of the scale of the universe ranging from the very microscopic world (if I remember correctly I think it even went down to Planck length) all the way to the macroscopic (black holes, galaxies). I'd be interested in such a zooming library that achieves something like that.
I think zooming is effective when it's used in isolation for discrete things. It does add a sense of delight, but there is a functional usefulness of this that I'm trying to wrap my head around.. perhaps a transition effect for an immersive demo, etc.. nice work.
Thanks! Yeah, immersive demos and dashboards are where it seems to click best.
Interesting. At one point I pinched my iPad to zoom out of habit and it got very confused. But yea, interesting.
The Home Assistant showcase looks fabulous.
Glad you liked it! That one was fun to build.
Would suggest using history-api navigation over the hash based routing.
I have great respect for people pursuing their special interests with such perseverance - you clearly care about zooming UIs.
And so do I (just to a lesser extent)! It’s a great way to express hierarchy.
One thing I encountered is that it becomes all buggy after using the slide-back navigation gesture in iOS Safari. Yet this being natively handles would be a really cool thing to me, like those iOS “close back to thumbnail” gestures you sometimes see when scrolling up/down that I haven’t really seen replicated anywhere else.
That means a lot, thanks. The iOS back gesture thing is tricky but would be really sweet to pull off.
Doesn't work correctly in Firefox.
Feels sluggish, but maybe this could be fixed by reducing the transition time.
But why? People usually don't notice such transition effects and it doesn't affect user experience in any meaningful positive way. It feels absolutely unnecessary.
Maybe you could re-use it as a mod for some game engine. This feels appropriate for video games; not for web-sites.
I have the exactly opposite view, possibly with the same amount of conviction. It feels very necessary to communicate hierarchy and where things are coming from and going. It communicates a lot of important information and continuity. In real life, you don’t have things suddenly appearing and disappearing all the time. That’s not how our brains are conditioned.
Weird, seems to work fine in Firefox on Android.